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Havoc 1 days ago [-]
Of all the policies they opt to roll back they pick that?
This always seemed more like a streamlining effort for which much of the processes already exist (e.g. EUSS already uses pure online docs). Gov already has all that info.
Meanwhile the crazy shit like sending facial scans and passports to random ass websites that will most certainly face data leaks seems have gotten comparatively little public backlash.
Starting to think the public just doesn't know what is being talked about & is latching on to simpler more self-contained concepts like gov ID.
fennecbutt 1 days ago [-]
Good in that I'm disappointed it was ever gonna be a thing. Especially since they probably had some disgustingly expensive parasite private contractor lined up to do the ids.
WE ALREADY HAVE DRIVERS LICENSES. Just like when I was living in NZ we had the HANZ 18+ card, they can do similar in UK. In fact a provisional drivers license is easy to apply for and the system is already set up to take applications, make the cards etc.
British citizens seem perfectly fine with government wasting money tho. Doesn't matter which political party either, they're all inept cocks.
marysol5 8 hours ago [-]
Digital ID, isn't just about "identification" in a pub, it's about interconnecting departments. Which as they stand just barely talk to each other.
Not everybody can get a driving license. A provisional isn't "easy" in the slightest, especially for a lot of the population.
ksec 1 days ago [-]
Not everyone has a driving licenses. But the UK has a PASS scheme [1] which frankly speaking isn't very widely used or enforced.
But yes, if they were to implement it, it is highly likely to be some private contractor taking insane amount of money for something that barely works.
I am not exactly against the idea, it works in some counties, but I fail to see how it will work in the UK.
My point was, there are the application/validation systems and manufacturing already set up for driver's licenses.
Anybody can apply for a provisional driver's license. That provisional driver's license is an acceptable form of photo id that shows your age,address etc already.
So there is no need for an alternative/new system. If they want a "id" version of the provisional driver's license in terms of style/what gets printed then it's an easy/small modification.
Sure not everyone has a driver's license, but anybody can apply for one. If you don't know what a provisional driver's license is, then please look it up...
ksec 23 hours ago [-]
I somehow completely missed out the part about provisional drivers license when I first read it. I now understand what you meant.
But last part of my reply was more specially on Digital ID. Which current system does not help or hasn't been implemented.
marysol5 8 hours ago [-]
> but anybody can apply for one.
Categorically false
IshKebab 1 days ago [-]
The world has changed since the 2000s. We already have many digital IDs. It's a no brainer to consolidate them.
marysol5 8 hours ago [-]
Also the UK gov is notorious for departments not having an ability to correlate records, because they databases just don't align. Meaning every single process takes weeks to complete with actual human intervention.
Digital ID was a bridge for all of that
lardosaurusrex 1 days ago [-]
good.
burnt-resistor 1 days ago [-]
Now if only the UK can scrap Garbagé and elect Count Binface as Prime Binister.
(Clacton will need serious public and legacy media advertising to overcome the Restore/Reform bias.)
fennecbutt 1 days ago [-]
I really do hope binface gets in because he's just a regular dude with similar sensibilities to most people actually living in their community.
But then I saw the interviews run on residents and who they'll be voting for, most of them creaky pensioners and most of them saying something like "I don't know anything about what's happening but I'm going to vote for Farage again anyway". I won't be surprised at all if Farage gets in again, tribalism and apathy strikes again.
marysol5 8 hours ago [-]
>he's just a regular dude
You know he's a TV writer for political shows right? He's not just some bloke down the pub
subscribed 1 days ago [-]
Public and legacy media loves and strongly prefers the guy buying houses with unexplained money or failing to report weird "gifts" that influence his activity.
I'm afraid people of Clacton will have to share the news of the Count, to actually make an effort and vote.
This always seemed more like a streamlining effort for which much of the processes already exist (e.g. EUSS already uses pure online docs). Gov already has all that info.
Meanwhile the crazy shit like sending facial scans and passports to random ass websites that will most certainly face data leaks seems have gotten comparatively little public backlash.
Starting to think the public just doesn't know what is being talked about & is latching on to simpler more self-contained concepts like gov ID.
WE ALREADY HAVE DRIVERS LICENSES. Just like when I was living in NZ we had the HANZ 18+ card, they can do similar in UK. In fact a provisional drivers license is easy to apply for and the system is already set up to take applications, make the cards etc.
British citizens seem perfectly fine with government wasting money tho. Doesn't matter which political party either, they're all inept cocks.
Not everybody can get a driving license. A provisional isn't "easy" in the slightest, especially for a lot of the population.
But yes, if they were to implement it, it is highly likely to be some private contractor taking insane amount of money for something that barely works.
I am not exactly against the idea, it works in some counties, but I fail to see how it will work in the UK.
[1] https://www.pass-scheme.org.uk
My point was, there are the application/validation systems and manufacturing already set up for driver's licenses.
Anybody can apply for a provisional driver's license. That provisional driver's license is an acceptable form of photo id that shows your age,address etc already.
So there is no need for an alternative/new system. If they want a "id" version of the provisional driver's license in terms of style/what gets printed then it's an easy/small modification.
Sure not everyone has a driver's license, but anybody can apply for one. If you don't know what a provisional driver's license is, then please look it up...
But last part of my reply was more specially on Digital ID. Which current system does not help or hasn't been implemented.
Categorically false
Digital ID was a bridge for all of that
(Clacton will need serious public and legacy media advertising to overcome the Restore/Reform bias.)
But then I saw the interviews run on residents and who they'll be voting for, most of them creaky pensioners and most of them saying something like "I don't know anything about what's happening but I'm going to vote for Farage again anyway". I won't be surprised at all if Farage gets in again, tribalism and apathy strikes again.
You know he's a TV writer for political shows right? He's not just some bloke down the pub
I'm afraid people of Clacton will have to share the news of the Count, to actually make an effort and vote.